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Posted on September 17, 2011 at 7:54 am
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I hope you ladies don't mind me posting on this board these days but I have some experience in this area. :)  I did a round of IUI with injectible medications in order to become pregnant.  With that cycle, I developed five mature follicles and all five released (we also did a trigger shot so it was guaranteed that they would pretty much all release).  And with back to back IUI's (two days in a row) we had even more of a chance of the sperm getting to the eggs.  Well, even with all that, only TWO fertilized and now I am almost 18 weeks pregnant with fraternal twins.  So my guess is that with Clomid, not using a trigger shot, and only BD'ing (not using IUI), there is less of a chance of more fertilizing.  I did two rounds of Clomid with timed intercourse and developed 2-3 follicles each time and got nada.  BUT...I did read that the way that John and Kate (+8) got pregnant with their multiples was a cancelled IUI round.  They did injectible meds, developed six follicles, their doctor refused to proceed, they had sex anyway, and then we all know what they ended up with.  So anything is possible.  So if it was me, I would move forward...I did so with an even higher chance of multiples.  But ultimately, you and your DH have to be comfortable with it.  I hope that helps...let me know if you have any other questions!

Posted on September 18, 2011 at 3:42 am
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Posted on September 18, 2011 at 6:09 am
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Thanks so much for the congrats...we're pretty over the moon with the whole thing!  Our successful IUI cycle was our 14th cycle of trying.  I started all the testing at about 9 months, did two rounds of Clomid with my ob/gyn, moved on to an RE for a month or so of additional testing, and then our first IUI cycle with injectibles was our successful one.  I knew Clomid woudn't work for me because it severely thinned my lining.  The day after O, my lining was at 6mm...they want to see more than that (my lining during the injectibles cycle was at 14mm!).  So if we had kept going on Clomid, it would have just gotten thinner and thinner.  Plus, it dried up my CM so really, there was no point.  DH's boys weren't getting anywhere.  My ob/gyn wanted me to do six rounds of Clomid but when I did my consult with the RE, he said to move to injectibles.  He did tell us that there was only about an 8% chance of success with IUI and that after three rounds, he would suggest moving on to IVF.  Guess we proved him wrong! :)


It's up to you whether you want to keep trying or move on to something more aggressive.  I understand the time thing...I was/am 36 when we conceived.  We were lucky in that my insurance covered most everything for the IUI cycle.  If we had moved on to IVF, it wouldn't have covered it.  So my meds were covered for IUI, as well as the procedure.  With my RE, if we hadn't had coverage, we would have paid over $3k out of pocket for meds, sperm washing, back to back IUIs, and all the monitoring appointments.  We would have paid it if we needed to, but we're lucky in that respect that we didn't need to cross that bridge.  Perhaps talk with your doctor about any donations of meds that are available, or financing opitons just to see what is out there.  I know that I donated my leftover meds to my RE's office for them to give to out of pocket patients.  So you never know what is out there.  Whatever you decide, just know that you and DH have to be comfortable with it - in terms of cost, aggressiveness, invasiveness, etc.  It's an emotionally tolling process so you have to be in it 100%.  Good luck to you guys and I hope this cycle is the one for you so that you don't even have to think about this stuff! :)

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Posted on September 18, 2011 at 7:47 am
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I'm another twin pregnancy from medicated IUI's. We had been TTC for a year before seeking medical intervention (I'm currently 35). We went through 3 rounds (unmonitored) of Clomid with back to back IUI's, and 2 rounds of injectibles, carefully monitored, with IUI's. After 20-21 months of trying, we finally conceived twins after the 2nd round of injectibles/IUI. I had 2 mature follicles, with a 3rd that was nearly there. If there were more than 3 follicles, I'm not sure if I would have proceeded, but I can't say that with any certainty (when you've been trying for nearly 2 years, and you're in your mid 30's...).


If the last round of medicated IUI's didn't work, we were going to try 1 round of IVF, then look into adoption from there. Finances were definitely factored into our decision. Our insurance offered partial coverage for the medicated IUI's, but none for IVF. Between the Clomid, injectibles, monitoring appointments, and IUI's, we probably spent a little over $4k on fertility treatments.

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Posted on September 19, 2011 at 6:13 am
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What a great post! I'm so glad to read this! 


I did 4 rounds of Clomid - it thinned my lining SO much! And never made my follicles grow =(  I would not do more than 6 rounds of clomid, if it is working. After 6 rounds and no BFP I would move on. 


I am starting Gonal-F 75iu tomorrow night. I really, really, really hope it works! My RE already told me anything over 3 follicles they wil cancel my cycle b/c of my size. But I am so glad to read your stories that the first few times with Injectables worked!!! I REALLY hope so! 


FX for you Tovaqt. Keep me updated! 

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Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:45 am
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Tovaqt--This means you went for it, right? FX!!!!!

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Posted on September 21, 2011 at 9:27 am
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@Tovaqt - Yes, its an injectable.  I had an HSG and my tubes are all clear so my RE sees no reason for an IUI, so we are BDing with timed intercourse.


I am so ready and excited about it working! I really hope it does! It's been a hard year so I am ready for good news with a BFP for us all! 

Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:36 am
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Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:37 am
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My tubes were all clear in my HSG too...DH had grade A swimmers, and my hormone levels were all normal. But sex wasn't working. I'm 99% sure I had a "hostile" environment and was killing DH's boys before they ever had a chance to get through the cervix. I produced NO ewcm and barely any watery cm so I'm thinking they never had a chance. Even Preseed didn't work (that stuff sucks by the way!) Doing the IUI got them past the cervix and deposited them near my tubes so they didn't have to make the long journey. First try at that and it worked. So sometimes even with everything checking out fine, an IUI is necessary!
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Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:10 pm
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Your very blessed to have clomid work for you!! :) I tried 3 cycles on it with no luck. We tried for almost 2 years to get pregnant, clomid failed, Bravelle injections failed... Was about to take a break for financial reasons and ended up with some free samples of follistem pen injections.
I had 6 mature follicles with it. I had never gotten any with my other meds. We did 2 back to back IUI's and sex! Lol. I'm 26 weeks with twins! Boy/Girl.

Anything over 3 and my doctor would of "pushed" for reduction. I was blessed to never have to make that decision. I feel god will give you what you can handle. Even if a doctor recommends reduction, you do not have to do it.

Good luck! Keep us posted!!

P.s. If you want to read more on my fertility journey, You can see my blog www.lettinglovegrow.blogspot.com
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Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:34 pm
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Tovaqt --- I keep stalking this thread. Despite the fact that I know that we have to wait two weeks, I keep hoping that by some miracle, you'll find out like 10 days early!! When do you plan to test?

Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:04 am
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Thank you so much! :) 


I know those up and down emotions...  Thinking of you, and excited you are headed in the right direction from the sounds of it!!

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Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:38 am
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Tovaqt - my guess would be that you actually O'd on Wednesday, CD16, especially with the dramatic temp increase the next day.  There isn't always a dip right at O (I didn't always have one) and you have three temps higher than the previous six to get crosshairs...Tuesday's and Wednesday's temps weren't higher than the previous ones.  My guess is that's why you don't have crosshairs yet.  One more high temp and I bet you'll get them on CD16.  And you sure covered your bases with the BD, girl!  HA!  Good luck to you and I'll keep my fingers crossed that this is it for you!

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