Dress opinions please

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As you know I've had much drama with trying to find a seamstress for a bespoke wedding dress. I've been window shopping as to what else is out there and I think I found something. The problem it is that its a little complicated...




I love this Jenny Yoo BM dress, I like the lace top because its really neat and different. I was thinking about ordering the lace top which will be in ivory lace and wearing it over a plain strapless white dress (longer a-line) instead of the BM dress shown. I have to wear white for FI's uniform, as mentioned in exasperation before. Would the ivory lace over a white dress look strange???




The sash comes with the top so do I go for a "nude" sash or an "ivory" sash? I may change out the sash for something from another shop but those are the two options I'm considering that it comes with.




http://www.jennyyoo.com/lace_organza01.html#







Thanks for your thoughts, its just something I'm considering in the search and I'm terrible with such choices!




Just to give you an idea of what dresses I was thinking of putting it over, these in snow:




Posted on February 8, 2008 at 4:28 pm
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I am not one who likes white and ivory together...but if you see it and think it looks great im sure it will
Posted on February 8, 2008 at 5:35 pm
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I think if you are going for the ivory top (which is lovely) I would pair it over an ivory strapless gown. White and ivory, not so much in my opinion but if you love it I'm sure you can pull it off... I also really like the 3rd gown and I think it would be great on it's own. You're going to be beautiful!
Posted on February 8, 2008 at 7:41 pm
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I must wear white, actually - hence why the dress needs to be white even if the lace is ivory... My FI is a Naval officer and his uniform is bleach white from head to toe, literally, they wear white shoes. If I wear an ivory dress, that is all ivory, the photos will make my dress look "dirty" when I'm standing next to him.
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 1:12 am
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ditto pp...white will be too bright for the ivory. But if you like the combination go for it and I will go with nude sash.

HTH
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 1:22 am
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I'll chime in with: Ivory and white is considered a "fashion don't" : )
and the combo probably won't photograph well together either (it will seem like the lighting was off)
BUT- brown and black is considered a "don't" too and I've seen it....

if you want to so a lace top- maybe a more contrasting, but soft color like rose?
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 2:34 am
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Marc Jacobs brought brown and black into fashion and defied tradition in 2006. Ivory and white are a don't if they are solid top vs bottom which isn't the case here but that's what pp seem to be thinking? My concern is if the lace is showing white through (underneath) the picture from Jenny Yoo shows the bridesmaids dress (the sold strapless) peeps through the lace - the lace swatches seem like the ivory isn't a very strong ivory. Has anyone worn or ordered Jenny Yoo lace things that can verify this? Rose is a thought, but it seems like the options on there are kind of a deep pink, perhaps too strong?
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 3:17 am
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maybe Champagne, the only way for you to know is to try the combo on?
can you visit a bridal shop?
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 3:28 am
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What shade of white? I think you can put white and ivory together. You see it a lot with details on dresses. I think it adds depth and texture to the overall look. I would get color samples for each to see how they go together before making any major decisions. I think they can be complementary if they are in the same tone family.
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 3:28 am
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That's a very good point S2BW - I was starting to think I was losing my mind and doubt myself after pp! I'm probably going to have to borrow your eye and mssg you when I get swatches! :)

theDame - I wish. It would make this easier. We're based in the middle of nowhere (I guess that's what service means, my FI does what McCain & Bush Sr did, although I don't support either of them ;) haha). Its impossible to fly out of here unless you are on a military plane sadly... or I should say its really really difficult.
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 3:30 am
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I would be more than happy to lend an eye. My bridesmaids dresses are Jenny Yoo so I have a pretty good feel for her fabrics and colors.

Have you looked at Amy Kuschel for inspiration? She has some dresses that mix white and ivory together nicely.
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 3:34 am
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I love the Jenny yoo dress. I tried it on though for possible bridesmaid dresses and the fabric is kind of wierd - the top has this lining that made all the girls (big chested and little chested) look lumpy up top. It wouldn't matter if you were wearing that lace top over it, but something to think about if you were considering taking it off. It's also one of those dresses that doens't have any bodice support so we all felt like we would constantly be pulling it up. It was gorgeous in person though!
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 5:14 am
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Hi Champ - I don't have time for a long post at the moment, but I just wanted to let you know that I LOVE that top and your whole ensemble idea. More later!
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 5:40 am
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I'm interested in your opinion aching!

AliciaB6 - that's good to know because I recommended Jenny Yoo to my BM's too, I'll pass that review along. I was thinking of just the top - did you find her lace to be itchy?

S2BW - I thought the Amy Kuschel dresses are very beautiful, I may keep that in mind for one actually. But this dress is something similar to what the contrast would be like, at least in my head... so thank you for suggesting I check her out!
http://www.amykuschel.com/gowns/rachel.html#rachel_3.jpg
Also cute and worth considering if the ivory turns out to be the wrong shade:
http://www.amykuschel.com/gowns/blossom_lace_jacket.html#blossom_lace_jacket1.jpg

I was talking to FI about some points that the pp made about ivory vs white, he thought some white on top, other than showing through the lace - may balance it more. Maybe a white sash or better than using the sash just a fabric belt sort of like a thinner obi - to balance things out?
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 7:05 am
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I am a bit late on this one, but here is my opinion. First off it is hard because his uniform is stark white. Here is what you could do.

If you wear a long aline gown in white, with a white lace top, it will look nice against his uniform. You can also add a nice satin ivory or creme colored sash around your waist to add a bit of style. The sash would only add a pop of color against the white dress and lace top and still would look nice against his stark white uniform.

I have seen this look done before and it works. HTH.
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 7:21 am
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Hm, if you see other lace tops/overlay pieces, let me know!

Would I need to switch to a birdcage for a lacy overlay on top or can I still wear a standard tulle blusher?

ChicBride - you're right, the stark white = big pain! I saw someone else's wedding pics with the same uniform (actually I've seen this in a couple weddings) and the bride has an all ivory dress - it turned out to look like her dress was dirty or faded from age in photos... not ideal.
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 8:24 am
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Well like I said, I would go with a white dress, white lace jacket or overlay of some sort and if you want to add a bit of color, an ivory colored sash around the waist.

As for your veil, you can still wear your blusher, but if you want a more vintage feel, I would do a birdcage.

Is this sort of what you are looking for?
http://www.jimhjelmvisions.com/jim_br/images_detail/jh8708_x1.jpg

One last thing. I am sure you already know this, but if you have to match is stark white uniform, you will have to get a dress that is made of polyester satin and not silk/silk satin. Since silk is a natural fiber, it will not be stark white. It will be more of an off white. Since polyester is synthetic, it will be stark white.
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 8:57 am
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So, here's what I think...First of all, DARLING top, and it would look so elegant over a clean, long silhouette. Regarding the color, I think ivory and white can look fantastic together. Check out this dress from Amsale:



Now, this dress is white lace on top with an ivory skirt, versus your ivory lace on top with white skirt, but same basic idea. And I really think the champagne silk sash finishes off the look perfectly. I wore a Jenny Yoo BM dress about a year ago (actually one of the ones you picked, Anastasia) - and I thought they were fantastic to work with. Have you tried calling and asking them to mail you swatches? I would think they would do it. I think the only danger is if the ivory is too close to the white, so that it looks like it's trying to match but doesn't quite. But with fabrics that have such different textures, I think that's unlikely.

I'm really excited for you! I think this is a lovely idea...
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 11:55 am
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Oh, one more thing - I would consider a dress in a softer fabric that the shantung silk ones you posted. Like this chiffon one? Just food for thought...

Posted on February 9, 2008 at 12:00 pm
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Thanks for the encouragement aching.

I'm having the darnest time finding the right dress! I don't really get excited by "bridal" dresses - I think its my extreme aversion for beading and puffiness. I said this once about a Prada skirt in 2004 and it still holds true, "I don't need help looking like a puffed up mushroom," I can do that quite well enough on my own! It isn't how they looks on most, just on me! And being tall its like, as I explained to FI, I just look like a GIANT fluffy tulle person!! I thought about some of the Amsale BM dresses which do come in white (except maybe more revealing than I'm comfortable with, I'm super prim haha) and this idea with the Jenny Yoo dresses. I think if the swatches still leave me discouraged or undecided I just have to swallow the pill and charter a flight or drive a bazillion hours to civilization... bah back country!

Does the chiffon come in white, do you think it would look good with lace? I'm not a huge fan of the strapless - namely because I'm not a huge fan of my broad shoulders which hold dresses well but without straps to break up the skin space, it looks too broad to me, I'm strange like that!
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 12:04 pm
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Oh, I meant with the lace top (and obviously without the sah on the dress)! It's hard to tell in the picture if the dress that they have shown with your top is a thick fabric or thin, but to me, lace tends to be kind of a hard texture, so I would want soft on bottom to counter it (as with the Amsale dress). And I love the charmeuse underneath - it could match the sash, which would be so beautiful. But all this, of course, is contingent on how it all looked in real life...
Posted on February 9, 2008 at 12:16 pm

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