Help deciding on a stroller for a city mom

Hi ladies, was wondering if you ladies can help me make a decision.  I'm trying to decide on a stroller pretty early on in hopes that I can find deals as the holiday and end-of-years sales come along. 


I currently live right across the river from NYC, in a nice urban neighborhood.  However, my in-laws and my doctors are all in the city, so I imagine we will have to take the train in often.  I already mapped out the route from my home to these places and it's a bumpy ride but there are ramps and elevators.  I know it's difficult to predict what our lifestyle will be after LO comes along but I also worry that as LO gets older, we'll want to explore more, like go to Central Park or other boroughs, which may not have subways with working elevators. 


I'm torn between two popular city strollers.  I've honestly seen more City Minis on the street as I stroller stalk but when I read urban mom forums, most seem to have Vistas (downtown moms vs uptown moms? manhattan vs outer boroughs?  I dunno).


Knowing this, and setting cost aside, which would you pick?


Baby Jogger CityMini GT


Pros:


- Super, super easy and quick fold.  No other stroller beats them in this category.  So easy both sets of gparents can use fold it.  Also great if I'm by myself and have to hold LO in one hand and fold the stroller with the other hand.


- Lightweight.  I think it's about 20 lbs.  Necessary for going up and down subway stairs or city buses.


- Can possibly be my only stroller.  It's a suped up umbrella that can be used with newborns and up to 60 lbs.  One stroller means less space taken up in our apartment and less overall cost. 


Cons:


- Only forward facing.  I think this will sadden me, to not be able to see LO and LO not be able to see me.


- I read the seat is not as comfortable or upright as the Vista. 


- Will need to upgrade if we have another child.


Uppababy Vista


Pros:


- Smoother ride than the City Mini.


- Can be seated upright, unlike the City Mini which is slightly inclined and is seated higher up for easy reach.


- Can convert to a two seaters for second LO.  (but then again, who knows what the future holds given this LO was difficult to conceive in the first place.)


Cons:


- Quite heavy.  Weighs about 25lbs. 


- Need two hands to fold.  And the fold is kinda like a quick punch.  I tried it at the store and I can handle it but I worry about my elder parents to be able to punch the handles in easily.


- No doubt will need a second stroller as LO gets older. It seems everyone with aVistaalso gets the G-Luxe.


I really appareciate any input on this.  TIA!

Posted on September 24, 2012 at 9:49 am
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I joined this group so that I could respond to this post!  I posted a very similar question a few months ago in the spring/summer 2012 bumps group.  I live in NYC and my daughter is now 3 months old.


I definitely agree that in the city it seems like the Vista and the City Mini are the most popular strollers around! I also considered both of those when I was deciding on which stroller to get.  I decided against the Vista because honestly, it was so bulky and hard to fold I knew my mother (who watches our LO) would never be able to use it.  It is absolutely a great stroller - such a smooth ride and I knew it would be great for park trips (we live right next to Central Park) but the price tag and the bulkiness made me decide against it.


The City Mini is really the easiest folding stroller I've seen or used.  We don't have one in our apartment now but my FSIL has one and still uses it for her 3.5 year old. She never had to buy a second stroller.  I think we're going to borrow hers (it's still in great shape) to keep in my parents' apartment for when I drop my daughter off there.  I think if we were to have only one stroller, this is what we would have purchased.


Ultimately we decided on a totally different stroller, the BOB Revolution, but this is almost solely because we are big runners and having a running stroller was important to us. We also have an umbrella stroller that we got from my other SIL that we will use once our LO is old enough (around 6 months) pretty much primarily for subway and bus trips.  The BOB is a great stroller but it is a monster - I'm not sure we would have bought it if we didn't know that we were going to have two strollers.  Right now if we take our daughter on the subway we take her in a a caddy carseat carrier.  We have this one:


http://www.giggle.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-giggle-Site/default/Product-Show?pid=0004097646&gclid=CLi7tsGW0bICFYio4AodaCEAmg


I just took her yesterday down to Times Square with this by myself on the subway - I held the car seat in one hand and the folded caddy in the other.  Of course wearing her is easier but if you need to have a stroller this is the easiest way for an infant, I think.  We got this as a gift but it's been a lifesaver. 


Sorry this is so long winded!  Please feel free to PM me if I can help in any way!

Posted on September 25, 2012 at 5:52 am
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Hi Wearingflats, thanks so much for responding, much appreciated!  Part of me really wants the convenience of the CM but I wonder if I'm sacrificing the comfort of LO or the joy of facing LO.  Then again, as you said, I could always wear the baby, which I hear is sometimes easier than dragging a stroller around.  So I'm leaning towards the CM but would love to hear other opinions. 


And I haven't actually considered a caddy carseat carrier. I might have to try it out.


Btw, did you register at Giggle?  I was thinking about registering there along with BBB.  Wondering what your experience was like with them.  Thanks again!

Posted on September 25, 2012 at 12:55 pm
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So we researched a ton and settled for the Uppababy. You just gotta really think about what's most important for you guys. For us the rear facing was top on our list bc rear facing encourages bonding between parent and babe (which according to Dr Sears aka Attatchment parenting god, that forms a confident and secure and happy adult). and when they are super tiny, you're all they should be seeing anyway (IMO). It's not till they are way past six months that they generally should be facing the world in short amount of increments. I didn't forward face DD until like 8 months I believe and that was one of the hardest things to do for me! But she showed signs of readiness. But I digress... I'll address your ons regarding the uppa in hopes of swaying you. ;) the weight, we decided to ultimately sacrifice some muscle and suck it up. You really do get used to it and we've never once regretted our decision to choose it due to its heaviness. The opening and closing is a tad difficult for the novice but nothing a mini training session and some practice didn't fix (we trained my parents). As for umbrella stroller, I never thought we'd get one bc we don't have space either in our place but we gave in. Those fold up super tiny anyway and we keep it in our trunk so no biggie. Plus when the time comes I can point ya in the direction of amazing consignment shops! I saw an almost new MacLairen Volo for $16!!!! We still use the uppa but now have the umbrella for quick trips to the grocery, etc.
Posted on September 25, 2012 at 3:01 pm
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So we researched a ton and settled for the Uppababy. You just gotta really think about what's most important for you guys. For us the rear facing was top on our list bc rear facing encourages bonding between parent and babe (which according to Dr Sears aka Attatchment parenting god, that forms a confident and secure and happy adult). and when they are super tiny, you're all they should be seeing anyway (IMO). It's not till they are way past six months that they generally should be facing the world in short amount of increments. I didn't forward face DD until like 8 months I believe and that was one of the hardest things to do for me! But she showed signs of readiness. But I digress... I'll address your ons regarding the uppa in hopes of swaying you. ;) the weight, we decided to ultimately sacrifice some muscle and suck it up. You really do get used to it and we've never once regretted our decision to choose it due to its heaviness. The opening and closing is a tad difficult for the novice but nothing a mini training session and some practice didn't fix (we trained my parents). As for umbrella stroller, I never thought we'd get one bc we don't have space either in our place but we gave in. Those fold up super tiny anyway and we keep it in our trunk so no biggie. Plus when the time comes I can point ya in the direction of amazing consignment shops! I saw an almost new MacLairen Volo for $16!!!! We still use the uppa but now have the umbrella for quick trips to the grocery, etc.
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One thing that might solve the front facing issue with the City Mini is the car seat adapter, which I've seen on a lot of strollers:


http://www.amazon.com/Baby-Jogger-Car-Seat-Adaptor/dp/B00155UGTO


We have the equivalent for the BOB and plan to keep her in it until she's about 6 months or so.  Just an idea!


Picking a stroller is such a big process isn't it?  I didn't feel secure in our choice until we went to BBB to try them out and fold them.  Whatever you decide they're both great strollers!


I didn't register at Giggle, I actually went with Amazon for our registry which I was very happy with.  I did order a few things from Giggle and they were delivered very quickly.


Wishing you all healthy and happy pregnancies!


 

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thanks ladies!  Picking a stroller is a big process!  And just when I think I'm getting closer to a decision, I talk to another mom who sways me to another direction!


I'm going to go back to the store and maybe try the carseat caddy that WearingFlats mentioned.  My friend (Pere_2012) also mentioned that as a lightweight option when traveling within Manhattan.  I also read that it has a much smaller footprint so I maybe able to take it to some restaurants. 


Silly question. I'm not sure I would use the bassinet that come with the UB Vista.  I read it's safer using a car seat attachment when travelling with a newborn. But I see that there is a stand for for the bassinet as an added accessory.  Is it safe to have the baby sleep in this bassinet for a long time if I left it at my ILs house as the sleeping arrangement?  If that's the case, I might be swayed to get the Vista.   What do you think?


 

Posted on September 29, 2012 at 5:02 am
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Oh that does solve the forward facing issue with the mini! I'll keep that in mind next time someone brings up the issue in their stroller research! :) and as for the bassinet we rarely used it bc she was born in January of the most brutal winter in NYC history so we rarely went out for walks outdoors. Our place didn't have a need for a bassinet in another room bc it was so small BUT I do know many people who used it this way.
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:38 am

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