Need Help with invitation

Ok, so as most of you know I am DIYing my invites. The main part is finished, however I need some technical help with illustrator...

The invitation you see below is the part that will be printed and scrolled. I drew the shell, scanned it into my computer and did the rest on illustrator. Here's the problem, the part I scanned has a white box around it. I want the inner boarder to continue over the box,but not over the shell. Basically i want it to appear that the shell is overlapping the inner boarder, anyone know how to do this?

Posted on November 6, 2007 at 3:33 am
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ignore the fact that half the invitation gets cut off, I guess it's to big to fit int he reply box =oP
Posted on November 6, 2007 at 3:34 am
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I?m not very good with this things. The only thing I can think of is pasting the shell last so it will be on tap. Does that make sense?
Posted on November 6, 2007 at 3:45 am
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Can you "erase" the white box around the shell? Or use a select tool to just select the shell itself and not the box around it? That's what I had to do in Paint for our monogram that I made in MSPublsiher...
Posted on November 6, 2007 at 4:05 am
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hmm...I know there is an easy answer...I think it is in the layering...let me ask my friend (a grahpic designer) and ask him..but I am pretty sure its in the layering I think you have to make each part a layer. Ill get back to you.
Posted on November 6, 2007 at 4:20 am
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You should be able to erase the background (or select no background) in photoshop. I don't think you can erase backgrounds in Illustrator.
Posted on November 6, 2007 at 5:17 am
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Is the drawing of the shell separate from the text? If it isn't, they should be.

The best option is to create a clipping mask to mask off the white area surrounding the shell. One way is to use the pen tool and draw around the edges of the shell. Make sure the outline is stacked above the shell image. Then select both the image and the outline and go to Object/Clipping Mask/Make. The white area should be masked off. There's another method that creates a more precise clipping mask, but it's a lot more steps that start in Photoshop. Send me an if you'd like me to go through it.

A quicker option is to try the Live Trace tool and see if you like it. Select the drawing and go to Object/Live Trace/Trace and Expand. It will take your drawing and convert it into vector art. The using the direct selection tool (the white arrow) to select the white area around the image and delete it. You will probably lose some of the details. But, some people like how graphic the art becomes.

Send me an email if you need any more help. abattyref at yahoo com.
Good luck!
Posted on November 6, 2007 at 5:30 am
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ooh so are "marriage" and "twelfth." also, "five" doesn't need to be capitalized. Here's an example I found online:

Mr. and Mrs. Kevin Johnson
invite you to join them
in a celebration of love
as their daughter, Emma Margaret
is united in marriage to
Mr. Jack Warren Smith
son of Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Smith
on Saturday, the sixth of June
two thousand and nine
at five o'clock in the evening
St. Michael's Church
Orland Park, Illinois
Posted on November 6, 2007 at 7:02 am
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she1, here are a few other options:

if the lines are drawn in illustrator, simply select the line, right click, "arrange" and "move to front".

or you can go to "window", select transparency. select the shell image, then go back tot he transparency window and click the drag-down menu and select either multiply or whatever... play with the options. but that'll allow your white box to be transparent.

HTH!
Posted on November 6, 2007 at 11:25 am
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Thank You all soooo much.
I'm going to try all of your suggestions tomorrow.

Lori, thanks for the eraser idea =o)

LukDuk, I have everything in different layers already, but if you friend has a suggestion, I'm all ears =o). I'm just starting to learn illustrator, (teaching myself)=oP

Mo, I don't have photo shop, but my FI said he has it on his parents computer, so I'm give that a shot.

Abatt, I don't have a live trace option under Object, but I'll see if I can find it somewhere elese. =)

Kittnmouse, I'll definitely check to see if transparency will work.

Oh an I know the spelling and grammar are bad =oP I just kinda wrote something quick to get the design down, didn't really spell check it yet, I know there are tons of mistakes (thank God for spell check lol) but thanks for pointing them out, now I know I wont miss anything =)I just designed the paper part of the invitation this morning. The boxes are almost done and I have all the pearls wrapped and glued onto the shells. I'll post a pic when there done =o)
Posted on November 6, 2007 at 1:46 pm
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abatty the clipping mask worked =o) Thank You soooooo much
Posted on November 7, 2007 at 2:05 am
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It depends if the the original shell image has a clipping path around it. The pathing tool is drawn with the pen tool in Photoshop. First in Photoshop create a new path, then trace a line around the outside edges of the shell, then save the image and paste the image into Illustrator, then draw the border line and select object Hope that helps.
Posted on November 7, 2007 at 5:07 am

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