NWR:Troy Davis Case

Has anyone followed? I have not followed recently, but I will say I'm not for the death penalty, like I said with the Casey Anthony trial, but if there are doubts maybe it should be put off.
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 4:12 pm
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I'm for the death penalty, but obviously not for someone who is innocent.


 


I'm waiting for the time to come when they find out who really killed the cop. It'll be a huge media thing, interviews of both parties involved will be held, public apologizes will be given and the Davis' family will most likely sue the other family and the state of Georgia for wrongful death.


 


It'll come sooner or later.

Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:24 am
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Sorry, I was meaning the actual cost of the execution versus the cost of staying in the prison, not the appeal process etc
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:51 am
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Glad to see someone put rehabilitation down! Often such a subject is forgotten about and it makes me so mad!! There is an alternative to prison, and the dumbing down of custody ultimately dumbs down the death penalty.

Im disappointed by the case, but I'm not fully clued up on all the facts. Seems the judge wasn't, either.
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:05 am
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I agree for the death penalty on people who hurt childeren, who rape and toture men or women or set out to murder someone...and when I mean murder they have a plot, a, motive and a means to kill that person or persons involved.


I am okay with killing them and I don't feel they should have an appeal process especially when all evidence is set before the court and there is substanial proof that you commited that crime.


However, this person leaves me doubting why they had the death penalty and excuted him. I do feel sorry for Troy Davis and for the Cop that passed that day in the line of duty...and I mean you are a cop on and off the clock it never stops trust me.


At the end of the day...God will make the final decision and the person that did kill the cop will get his, maybe not today or in this life but he will get his true judgement and for that I have to take peace in knowning.

Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:08 am
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I couldn't have said it better myself Tarynmcdonald! We may never know the truth. People say they are "innocent" all the time. Its a touchy subject. I have very strong political opionions on most every subject. But when it comes to capital punishment, I have none. I wouldn't want the blood on my hands, but at the same time- people need to understand that you CAN NOT take a life in America and get away with it.

Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:16 am
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I am not big on the death penalty.  Honestly, I think it should only be used in cases like seriel killers or those that torture and kill children.  In other words, extreme cases.  I think that the Troy Davis case is a travesty of justice.  There was no real proof that the man killed the officer.  In my mind, the only reason they killed him was to satisfy  the bloodlust of people screaming that he was a cop killer.  They needed a fall guy and he was convenient.  It's terribly sad.

Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:28 am
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i JUST learned about this story literally this week. i was just a new born when all of this first took place and as a child i certainly didnt have any idea of what was going on.


HOWEVER, i feel strongly that everything that took place EVEN THE 20 YEARS IN JAIL was unfair being that there was no little to no evidence.


i AM against the death penalty totally ONLY because i just believe GOD should have the ONLY decision to put someone to death (this is only my opinion). i just strongly believe that ANY crime is deeper than just the crime commited. therefore, instead of going the "easy" route(death), like someone else stated in this thread, rehabilitation AND even mental help should be the first option.


the situation and execution that took place is really affecting ME because i am so young and i dont have many "american experiences" BUT watching this i felt as if i was living "back in the day" when WORSE things, that i had to hear about, took place.


at the end of the day, life's NOT always FAIR! GOD has the final say and although justice was not served, the truth has to come to the light eventually.

Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:42 am
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@Layla I think you are talking about Jaycee Duggard. Yep everyone thought her step-dad did it and thought he made up the whole story about her being kidnapped.

I pretty sure the situation with Troy was racially motivated. Especially from being a case from back then and in the south. This is just terrible cause there were little evidence. I think he should have at the least been given a new trial.
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:53 am
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I think (again, watching too much Dexter is infiltrating my brain) the death penalty should be used in the case of preventing a criminal from committing more murders.  Hannibal Lector would be a good candidate for it, or in real life, Ted Bundy or Charles Manson (okay, just spent an hour reading about the Manson family and am now thoroughly creeped out).  Some people cannot be rehabilitated, and while life in prison is all well and good, I also don't believe that random prisoners by right deserved to be sexually assaulted, abused, or even killed while in prison.  Some people are simply too disturbed to be unleashed on others, even other rapists or murders.


I think that a pretty good case could be made that, even if by some account Troy Davis was guilty, he was not a threat to society as a whole.  And he was convicted on a lot less evidence than Casey Anthony was acquitted on. 


The fact that Charlie Manson lives and Troy Davis died last night is an utter atrocity in our culture as well as our justice system.

Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:01 am
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Agree with that Timily! BTW I'm a Dexter fan too! : )
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:20 am
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"The fact that Charlie Manson lives and Troy Davis died last night is an utter atrocity in our culture as well as our justice system".


TimilyL - I TOTALLY agree!!!


I'm glad that people are upset and being so vocal about what happened, but the question is what are we going to do to make sure it doesn't happen again. My fear is that in a couple of weeks (or even days) this will just be another old news story.

Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:58 am
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As someone who grew up in a justice system without death penalty, I cannot wrap my head around how a modern nation like the US still does something as archaic. I really really hope the Troy Davis Case will start a change, because it shows the flaws of the system - innocent people get convicted (not saying he was innocent, but the point is he might have been and others might have been before him). To err is human and you can't bring someone back from the dead. It's just horrible.


The important thing is to draw the consequences and vote wisely next year!

Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:01 am
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I haven't seen or heard about this but thanks for keeping me up to date!!! I'll be praying for this case

Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:07 am
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I completely agree with Aroma. Very sad indeed.

Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:40 am
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My question to those of you who feel this man is innocent is how much of the case do you know about besides what was presented in the media?  After reading more of the case than just what little is thrown out there by his defense attorneys, there is no doubt in my mind that Troy Davis was guilty of murdering Officer MacPhail.  There are also multiple judges from several different levels of the justice system that have ALL confirmed the innitial conviction of Mr. Davis. 


I go back and forth on how I feel towards the death penalty.  Obviously, it is not a deterrent but this might have a lot to do with the fact that it is not "swift" punishment.  A person will sit on death row often 20 some years before being executed.  This gives them all their time to file appeal after appeal which is what the justice system allows for.  There are just some people out there that are nothing but evil and will do whatever they want if it benefits them.  These guys that get institutionalized are more comfortable living in prison than they are in the free world so then I think that prison is often then no punishment at all either.

Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:11 am
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At least if you have life in prision and you are innocent, you stand a chance at one day clearing your name and getting out if new evidence presents itself.....


Even if they figure it out now he was innocent and find the real killer, its too late for him, they killed him. All those involved in convicting him now have blood on their hands, hope they have trouble falling asleep at night!

Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:17 am
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The death penalty should not be "swift" punishment. You shouldn't want to rush to kill someone because of a guilty verdict. I'm sorry, but how many convicted are found to be innocent? Even forensic and DNA evidence isn't fool proof and has been faulty in the past.


I said prison was too "cushy" once and someone said this to me to shut me up real quick: If you think prison is so comfortable, try it out and let me know how you feel after that.

Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:27 am
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I don't believe that the States should be in the business of killing its citizens, it barbaric! I do believe that someone who commits a heinous crime must  be punish, but I do believe that we need another method to dish out punishment. For example, life sentences, no parole with isolation. I can think of no worse hell then to be isolated in a 8x8 cell, without tv, radio or contact with other inmates for the rest of my life! Harsh, but more just than the State executing people.


Also, those who tend to end up on death row usually are poor, undereducated people that had public defenders. Not a fair system of justice. When you have money to bring in a paid attorney (s), hire additional staff to do investigation, and bring in paid experts - the outcome may be different. I thought one of the basis of our system was something like " better for one hundred guilty to go free, than for an innocent man to be found guilty". I am not commenting on the innocent or guilt of Troy Davis, but the nature of his punishment.


BTW, I find it curious, that most who support the death penalty are also the ones  who tend to be Pro-Life. ???? Ironic!

Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:03 am
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Like I said before, I go back and fourth on this subject. however, in the end.. I think that as barbaric as it is- we need punishments like this to enforce the idea that one can not kill another without horrible consequences. this man had 20 plus years to prove his innocents. I dont see many posts here about the innocent cop that was shot. He didn't get 20 years to fight for his life, he didn't protesters begging to save him. I just think the attention is on the wrong person in these cases.


Also, I am pro-life as well. But these are two very different things. Taking the life of someone who took the life of another and will likely kill again- isn't the same as killing a perfectly innocent baby who has not even had the change to sin yet!


it could also be curious that many of those who do NOT support the death penalty are also the ones who tend to be pro-choice. I cant wrap my head around that either.

Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:29 am
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