Caramel, I agree with you immensely about them not using a tapered ruffle at the top-then going huge at the bottom. Its very clear they used the same size ruffle. I also think part of the reason why this shows up so badly is that they are not using the flowy kind of chiffon like your original picture. The original dress' ruffles hang better because the chiffon is probably more softer. The chiffon on your dressily gown looks more like its got a sheen to it which makes me believe that its either organza or a cheaper chiffon (probably the latter) and so it doesn't hang well.
They have too much crinoline under your dress because its poofing out and doesn't have the same shape as your original dress. Its very clear that they cut this dress to make it look more A-line than it is to be a straight silhouette. Maybe they don't even need to place crinoline under your dress. Did you ask them to show you what is lining it underneath?
Honestly - the dress looks really pretty! Did you send those pictures to them in the first place? It's hard for them to see every detail from only one picture. At this point it may be too late to request all those changes since the dress is completed.
Uuuunnngh. I originally asked them to make it in chiffon, but then when I looked up the actual designer dress, it said it was made from silk, lace, and ORGANZA. Even a well-known designer who had lots of praise for this dress mentioned organza. Are there different grades of organza too? It was probably SILK organza...that's what it was.... I wonder what dressily used then...barbie doll organza?
I did email them to ask about the lining or extra crinoline if any. Gosh I hope they're able to fix the skirt - i think they actually did a pretty darn good job on the bodice (except for the untapered patches of lace near the ruffles haha). And the flower's really nice too. Thanks for your input!
What you have to remember is dressilyme does not operate the way Milly bridal does, that's the reason the price is so much lower and you really have to toss that idea out the window when ordering from them. They do not do test dressses and they don't make changes. You ask for a replica, you get one, but it is their best determination of what the original dress is.
With that said I think this is one of the best dresses I have seen by them and it looks fantastic. What it looks like up close I can't say, but from the pictures...I say pretty darn good.
Say it ain't so! I supplied them with a TOOONNNN of pictures - pictures of me in it, closeups, far away, pictures of dress on dummy, lace detail, ruffle detail, train, you name it. At this point I'm willing to pay more for them to redo the skirt in silk organza and CORRECTLY by tapering the ruffles. It's so close! Just the darn cartoony ruffles that get my goat. Has anyone ever gotten work-in-progress shots from dressily like they do from Milly?
The fabric on the original dress really does look like chiffon to me, and I think only chiffon can drape same the way as on your inspiration. Sometimes it's hard to trust what they said about materials on the designer's website.
I ordered a replica dress from Milly, and it says on the designer's website that it's made of silk organza, so I told Milly to make it in silk organza, Milly replied and said that looks like tulle to them, so I went to the bridal store and try on the real dress, it's really just tulle to me. So to me, I am not sure if you can totally trust what it says about material on the designer's website.
Oy, I didn't know not to trust designers' descriptions. Who'd have thunk? I was under the assumption there were different grades of organza, though:
Don't these dresses look much softer and have less sheen? I doubt the description's wrong on ALL of them...right?
2010bride2bee, I agree that dressily's prices are a lot cheaper, and I don't deny they did a pretty good job regardless of the skirt, especially when not compared with anything else. I think though that the silhouette should at least be similar, and if they had 20+ pictures for reference, they'd be able to get the ruffles right. Instead, it looks to me they tried to finish the dress faster by not tapering anything. I'm totally willing to pay more for them to get it right, and I'm also having them make the reception dress. Communication has been fantastic so far, and hopefully Ashley will be understanding of my concerns!
Thanks to all who have responded so far!
they may have placed a crinoline under the skirt which will not be sent to you. I think that's what they did on my dress when they took the picture.
If they did put a crinoline under the skirt, the dress may be more of the correct sillouette. Let's hope that's what they did! Fingers crossed.
i like the dress so much, good job from dressilyme! you know, no china wedding dress maker makes exactly the same dress! i think you should get it as it is and go to a good seamstress here to get it fixed like you really want it. I dont think dressilyme will change anything as the product is finished.
you can cut the ruffles a little bit with a good seamstress so it looks more like the original. and i agree with the others, there is a crinoline underneath to show the volume of the dress. i fell in love with mine as soon as i got it and i also got pictures before and was not sooo excited. But on me it was love at first sight! you just give it a try! :))
Allywells and Bride2bee, good point about the crinoline. Wonder why they'd shoot the picture with more volume when there needn't be?
Bride1986, yeah I agree they wouldn't get it exaaactly right - that's just wishful thinking on my part. :P I LOVE how it looks from waist up. They sent me a picture of the back too - I was awed. This is for anyone who has doubts about their lace-handling:
They've actually agreed to make modifications! Ashley has been amazing to work with. I offered to pay more, but they haven't charged me anything extra. I Heart Dressilyme. I'll keep you girls updated.
I got a lace dress too. I was a little disappointed it looked a bit cheap it's the only way I can describe it. I don't know. it just wasn't the maggie i loved in the store
Awesome! I hope it all works out - it's a beautiful gown!
That lace looks gorgeous.
The lace work looks incredible so far!
Caramel, there are different grades in every type of fabric i.e. silk, cotton, polyester, you name it! If the designer gown says that it is organza, it probably is. But its more than likely silk organza then if it lays flowy like you mentioned.
A good example would be this dress I tried on at Priscilla of Boston and fell in love with. When I checked the tags inside to see the type of fabric, it said 100% silk, but the fabric looked like satin to me, just a lot softer than regular (regular meaning polyester and stiff. HAHAHA). They can make silk organza AND tulle : D
So sorry, I know you're unhappy!
But I think it's gorgeous!
2011bride, you are probably correct! I'm 99% positive they just used a different type of organza. I wish I had known earlier so I could specify and avoid having to tell them to redo the bottom :( :( :(
Here's an updated in-progress shot:
o m g. omg. omg. omg. Clearly they've switched out the fabric, but this is still organza. Here's a ruffle sample in CHIFFON:http://www.dressilyme.com/UploadFile/c3af4b65-c54c-4ecd-adfa-83bbeb439a52.JPG Ashley said chiffon can't do the ruffle effect. I guess the site was right about organza! But holy cow what a difference a different type of organza makes!! I LOVE THIS. LOVEEEEEE. I'm so grateful that they're even willing to make adjustments.
Now I really don't know what to do...in regards to keeping it on THIS path with the big ruffles or copy the original. because I LOOOOVE how vera-wangy those big flowy ruffles look!! Actually it looks more like: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VK1-x1aT7FI/S7yvR5HfNBI/AAAAAAAACwk/eFnKqfp2lho/s400/fif_badgley_mishka_bride.jpg
I still like the mermaid/trumpet look, and Ashley said they will correct it to be a mermaid as requested, just that this was only a "proof" for the ruffle material. I think I will just have it be a "fit an flare" where it flares out right as it passes the mid-thigh. (Damn I wish my legs were longer :P)
I am excited.
O.M.G. LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS NOW! Wowwwww!!!! It really does look like the pic you posted of the Badgley with the billowy ruffles. And the new organza lays so much better. I <333333333 it!!!!!!!
So you will do more trumpet look then for this dress rather than mermaid, right? I think it already looks fantastic now as is, but I could also see it going trumpet/fit and flare as well. Good job Dressilyme!
HAHAH I know, I'm on the brink of telling them "JUST SHIP IT TO ME RIGHT NOW GIMME GIMME GIMME." I liked how your "O.M.G." was right next to your profile pic. Totally matched. ;)
I was looking up the difference between fit to flare, trumpet, and mermaid. Here's the "best answer" chosen on yahoo:
"Fit and flare is fitted through the hip, then just as it starts to curve in around the thigh, it flares out. Trumpet stays fitted to the knee, then flares out. Mermaid is fitted to just below the calf, almost to the ankle, then flares out."
Don't think it's down to an exact science as all that, but flaring from the hip is what I'd like. I think trumpet or mermaid (according to this poster) would make me look squat.
Anyway, yay! Love you, Dressilyme.
I LOVE these ruffles! WAY better than even your inspiration dress! I vote to just have them ship it as is. Then you can take it to a seamstress and she can show you how fit-in-flare/mermaid/trumpet, etc. all look on you. Yay! So glad you love it!